You've spent years helping patients optimize their healthspan — extending the quality of their lives through functional medicine, longevity protocols, and personalized care. But here's the question nobody's asking you: what does your wealthspan look like?
That's the concept at the center of this episode of the Grow Smarter podcast. Paavan Kotini, founder of Kotini & Kotini and author of Effortless Wealth and Tax-Efficient White Coat, joined host Andrew Hong for a conversation that every practice owner in the longevity and wellness space needs to hear.
The core argument is simple: if you're helping patients live to 100, your financial foundation needs to keep pace with that vision — for you and your family. Most practice owners are earning well. Far fewer are building wealth intentionally. This episode is about why that gap exists, and exactly what you can do about it starting today.
Key Takeaways & Show Notes (Chapter/Timestamp Summary)
1. What Is Wealthspan: And Why Practice Owners Keep Ignoring It
Paavan draws a clear distinction between three terms that practice owners in the longevity space should understand instinctively:
Lifespan is the quantity of life. Healthspan is the quality of life. Wealthspan is the viability of life — the financial quality of life that determines whether the years you're adding actually feel like freedom.
Most high-income practitioners neglect wealthspan for one simple reason: they assume their tax bill is just the cost of success. They hand their documents to a CPA in April, pay what they owe, and move on. That assumption is costing them more than they realize.
"The biggest mistake practice owners make today," Paavan says, "is that they don't know they're leaving money on the table."
The distinction Paavan draws is between tax filing and tax planning. Your CPA handles the former — reactive, compliance-focused, looking backward at a year that's already over. Tax planning is a completely different discipline, one that requires forward-looking strategy, specialized knowledge, and, critically, the right timing. You can't optimize what's already happened.
2. The Filer vs. The Planner: A $5 Million Difference in Mindset
In Chapter Two of Tax-Efficient White Coat, Paavan tells the story of two doctors with identical incomes — both earning $350,000 per year. One is a traditional filer. The other is a planner. Over 30 years, the difference in their net worth at retirement is $5 million: $3 million for the filer, $8 million for the planner.
The gap isn't luck. It isn't income. It's mindset — and the team behind that mindset.
"Just like in longevity and functional medicine, you can't go to a traditional doctor and ask for the same things," Paavan explains. "You have to go to a specific type of practitioner that knows how to do these things."
The shift from filer to planner doesn't require a complete overhaul of your financial life overnight. It starts with one decision: to stop treating your tax situation as a fixed cost and start treating it as something that can be actively managed and reduced — legally, strategically, and proactively.
3. One Low-Hanging Fruit Most Practice Owners Miss: The Consulting Entity
If you're a functional medicine or longevity practitioner who speaks at conferences, consults for other practices, or creates content — you may be missing one of the simplest tax moves available to you.
Paavan describes it as a side consulting entity: a separate LLC structured around your consulting and speaking activity. This entity can unlock deductions your main practice cannot — covering things like speaking travel, podcast appearances, content creation time, and consulting work with other clinics.
The three major pillars of tax planning, as Paavan frames them: credits, deductions, and depreciation. A consulting entity is one of the most accessible ways to unlock more deductions without dramatically increasing complexity.
Beyond taxes, proper entity structuring also serves a second purpose: risk mitigation. It creates a wall between your personal assets and your business — so that if something goes wrong in your practice, your personal financial life is protected.
"You can utilize entity structuring to mitigate taxes," Paavan says, "and not only mitigate taxes — it's also mitigating risk."
This is the kind of move that separates a filer from a planner. It's not exotic. It's not complicated. Most practice owners just don't know it exists, or they've been told to wait until they're bigger to think about it. They shouldn't.
4. Private Equity Is Coming: Opportunity or Competition, Depending on What You Do Now
One of the most urgent topics in the episode is the trajectory of private equity in the functional medicine and longevity space. Paavan is direct: PE is already consolidating traditional medical and dental practices at scale, and it will move aggressively into longevity and wellness clinics over the next 7 to 12 years.
For practice owners, that creates two very different futures — and which one you end up in depends almost entirely on decisions you make today.
Scenario one: You've been building intentionally. Your practice isn't entirely dependent on you as the primary practitioner. You have documented systems, diversified revenue, and a financial structure that reflects real enterprise value. When PE comes knocking, you're positioned to command strong multiples and exit on your terms.
Scenario two: You haven't been thinking about the end game. PE firms buy up the clinics around you, invest in marketing, build national brand recognition, and start competing directly for the patients you used to acquire through word-of-mouth. Your ability to compete erodes, and the window for a favorable exit closes with it.
Andrew makes a related observation from his own marketing work: the competitive landscape for longevity practices is already harder than it's ever been. Large consolidated groups are investing in SEO at a national, state, and local level — systematically targeting independent practices. The time to prepare is now, not when the competition arrives at your door.
Key Takeaways & Conclusion
- Wealthspan is the financial quality of life that needs to keep pace with the healthspan you're building. Don't extend your patients' lives without securing your own financial future.
- Tax filing and tax planning are not the same thing. Your CPA handles compliance. A proactive planning team handles strategy — and they need to be talking to you before the tax year ends, not after.
- The filer-to-planner identity shift is the most important financial mindset change a practice owner can make. It's intentional, not accidental.
- A consulting entity is one of the most accessible, underutilized tax moves for practitioners who speak, consult, or create content. It unlocks deductions your main practice can't access.
- Private equity is coming to your space. Whether it becomes an exit opportunity or a competitive threat depends on how you build — and plan — starting now.
- The right time to start is now. If you're doing $1M+ in revenue and haven't had a proactive tax planning conversation, you're likely leaving money on the table.
Ready to Build Your Wealthspan?
If this episode resonated with you, Paavan and his team at Kotini & Kotini offer an initial diagnostic call to see if they're the right fit for your practice. You can reach them at kotiniandkotini.com or pick up a copy of Effortless Wealth or Tax-Efficient White Coat on Amazon to go deeper on these frameworks.
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Andrew Hong: Okay, hey everyone, welcome back to the Grow Smarter podcast. If you're in the longevity or wellness space, you've probably built your whole practice around helping people live longer, healthier lives. You're obsessed with healthspan — extending the quality years for your patients, maybe not just the quantity. But here's the question that nobody's really asking you as a practice owner: what's your wealthspan look like?
Because helping patients live to 100 is incredible. But if your financial foundation isn't set up right, you might be funding those extra years in a way that keeps you working forever — and not by choice. We all become entrepreneurs because we have this dream of freedom, and sometimes we end up in the exact opposite of that dream.
Today's guest has over two decades helping high-income practitioners stop the financial bleeding. He's the founder of Kotini & Kotini, a boutique virtual family office for first-generation wealth builders, and the number-one Amazon bestselling author of Effortless Wealth and Tax-Efficient White Coat. His approach is called SWAN — Sleep Well at Night — and as entrepreneurs and longevity and healthcare professionals, we all know how important sleep is and how financial stress can keep us from getting it. It's built specifically for busy professionals who are great at earning money but haven't had anyone help them actually build wealth from it.
We're going to talk about the mindset that separates practice owners who scale from those who stall, what most CPAs miss when it comes to tax strategy and planning, and why the decisions you make in your practice right now could determine your exit value in ten years. Whether you're thinking about an exit or not, your financial plan is here to stay — and you need to understand how to put it in place. Welcome to the Grow Smarter Podcast, Paavan. Great to have you here today.
Paavan Kotini: Thank you, Andrew. Excited to be here. I'm passionate about longevity and functional medicine — I'm a benefactor of it myself — and I'm really excited about today's conversation.
Andrew Hong: Give me a little bit about your background. You have a biomedical engineering background and eventually made your way into the financial planning space. Tell me about the arc of your career and your journey to where you are today.
Paavan Kotini: It's a little interesting, actually. I started off as a biomedical engineer and did seven years of research on cancer. I totally believed growing up that I was going to be an oncologist — the intent was to help people and make a difference through medicine. Long story short, I was doing surgery on a monkey one day at the Vanderbilt Cancer Ingram Institute. When I cut a vein, blood started spreading everywhere. There were six other scientists there, and I passed out on the ground. The question became: do we take care of Paavan or do we take care of the monkey? Five of the scientists decided the monkey was more important — and it took us six months to plan for that surgery. The junior scientist dragged me out, threw water on me, put my legs up, and made me feel better. This happened a couple of times, and I realized I can't see blood. It's hard to be in the medical profession when you can't see blood.
So I had to look for my next career trajectory. Not to be stereotypical, but if you're Indian, you know that if you're not in medicine, you're typically in engineering or IT. I worked at Apple and was part of the first iPhone project, which was really cool. But it was a segue career, because that's when I realized I didn't understand much about 401(k)s or the financial industry. I got very curious. I got into finance out of curiosity for myself, but also to help my parents. My father and mother were successful entrepreneurs, and when I asked them about finance, they said: we know how to earn money, we know how to save money, but we're too busy to figure out what to do after that.
Andrew Hong: Invest it. Manage it. There's a difference between earning it, saving it, and that whole other gray area in the middle — which is really where wealth gets created.
Paavan Kotini: Absolutely. My father had a number of different advisors, but none of them were collaborating or talking to each other. It was a hodgepodge of things that really wasn't working. He was paying a ton in taxes. Coming from a non-financial background, I quickly saw that there had to be a better way. As I got into the industry, I learned that there are tools and strategies that multi-millionaires have access to that most people simply don't. That became my passion — helping families in the financial space. I didn't become a medical doctor, but as my family says, I ended up becoming a financial doctor.
Andrew Hong: Just curious — what kind of businesses were your parents in?
Paavan Kotini: A variety. IT companies, and my mom had a restaurant — she was a really famous chef in Richmond. They had a restaurant, a grocery store, two coffee shops, an IT company. Serial entrepreneurship. My father also helped build Capital One and was one of their VPs back around 2002.
Andrew Hong: Entrepreneurship runs in the family. Were your parents first-generation immigrants?
Paavan Kotini: Yes, absolutely. We were first generation. One of the reasons I love working with first-generation wealth builders is the energy — there's just a different level of drive. We came in the early 80s; I was two years old when we arrived in the United States.
Andrew Hong: Tell me about Kotini & Kotini. What do you do, who do you work with, and what makes you different?
Paavan Kotini: We are a non-traditional, proactive planning family office. We focus on six primary areas: advanced tax planning, wealth management, risk management, legal services, business advisory, and — specifically for doctors — practice enhancement and lifestyle concierge. Our focus is to bring all of these elements together as a one-stop shop. We're not necessarily looking to replace someone who's already working great for you. We want to identify the areas you may be missing. We call ourselves savvy sandbox players — we work really well with other professionals. If you have a CPA you've been with for years who's great at tax filing, fantastic. They do the tax filing; we do the advanced tax planning. There's a significant difference between the two.
Andrew Hong: I want to double-click on a term you just used: lifestyle concierge. Tell me what that means and what it looks like as a service for your clients.
Paavan Kotini: What we started to notice is that busy, successful professionals get very good at delegating financial things — but they're also looking for help in other areas. Part of lifestyle concierge is about health: how do they continue to improve their executive health? And part of it is more experiential — access to custom suits, exotic cars, whatever it might be.
Andrew Hong: I need that allocation for the Porsche.
Paavan Kotini: Exactly. Whatever it is, the goal is to make our clients' lives simpler and improve their lifestyle. We have access to a number of things, and we work to make those accessible.
Andrew Hong: That's interesting because I work with a practice in Boise right now where our monthly syncs inevitably drift from SEO reports to "Andrew, I can't figure out this IT thing — my Google admin is driving me crazy." As professional services firms serving these practices, we see how quickly entrepreneurs get overwhelmed outside their area of expertise. Which actually connects to how Paavan and I met — we were both at A4M's Longevity Fest conference this past December 2025. As an entrepreneur, you step in as the expert in your field — stem cells, hormone balancing, whatever your focus is — but when you become a business owner, you quickly realize you don't know all the other things required to be successful. There comes an inflection point where it no longer makes sense to do everything yourself. Is the lifestyle concierge part of what differentiates you from other tax and financial planning firms?
Paavan Kotini: Absolutely. Our biggest differentiator is that we bring everything together — we don't look at things in silos. We stay true to the original intent Rockefeller had when he created the first family office: bringing multiple disciplines together and looking at things comprehensively. Most family offices out there are really just glorified wealth managers. We do the tax planning and bring all of those aspects together. For doctors specifically, we have a division called the Doctor's Family Office — a physician's family office. It's specific and niche, and it includes unique lifestyle concierge services that really help doctors improve their practice and their personal lives, because they're dedicating so much time and energy to their practice at the expense of everything else.
Andrew Hong: Let's talk about the elephant in the room: exit strategy and private equity. As an entrepreneur, there needs to be an exit. There's no glory in saying "I'm going to stay on this thing and work until I die." If you're building a legitimate business, you need to build it in a way that at least gives you the option to exit. Over the past three to five years, I've noticed the significant entrance of private equity in this space — roll-up plays happening across the US, acquiring practices, sometimes at good terms, sometimes not. Where do you see private equity and small longevity and wellness practices going in the next ten to twelve years?
Paavan Kotini: The industry is really growing on a very promising trajectory, and private equity has noticed. You're already seeing it in traditional medical and dental practices — they're acquiring at multiples and grouping practices together. We're going to start seeing that happen in functional medicine and longevity over the next seven to twelve years. What's really important as a practice owner is to keep the end in sight. How do you want to transition? Do you pass it to the next generation, sell to your employees, or sell to private equity? As entrepreneurs, a lot of us think our business is our retirement — but we need to build wealth outside of the business so we have a real retirement. There's a difference between physical retirement and financial retirement. I'm not saying you have to be physically retired when you financially retire, but it gives you freedom and choice.
Private equity is going to do one of two things to you. One — it gives you a really good exit opportunity. If you're looking to exit in the next seven to twelve years, that's fantastic, but you have to do things now to increase your enterprise value and your differentiation. It can't be dependent entirely on you as the primary practitioner. Two — if you don't have the end in sight, they're going to be buying up longevity and functional medicine clinics all around you, and they become your competition. You need to understand how that impacts your ability to compete.
Andrew Hong: It's never been harder to acquire new patients than right now. There's a big roll-up play with a company called Genesis that's consolidating under a specific brand, investing in SEO at a national, state, and local level, and systematically trying to take patients away from independent practices. This field is great and there's a lot of attention on it, but the competition is significant — and it's only going to increase. As I've learned more about your firm, it seems like you try to show clients the iceberg that's 500 miles away that they're slowly drifting toward. Is a lot of what you do about preempting these things?
Paavan Kotini: Absolutely. We believe in planning for the best but preparing for the worst. We see the iceberg — are we turning right, left, or going directly at it? We do things that are micro strategies for now but also look at macro strategies for the long term. Most people can make really good decisions if they have the right information in front of them. Unfortunately, in a world with so much information and AI-generated noise, it's hard to filter what's actually relevant. When it comes to private equity, it is harder to get clients today than it was five or ten years ago, and there will be more competition. How do you make sure you're getting the best value, and when is the right time to exit? Most people think they have a plan — they want to exit in ten to twelve years — but if you get a really good offer in seven years, would you take it? We want to understand the ultimate goal and bring you news and insights that say, hey, maybe now is the prime time to sell a longevity clinic. You're getting four to five times multiples now; a few years down the road, it could be less. We want to paint the whole picture so you can focus on what's really important to you.
Andrew Hong: Let's talk about wealthspan — a term you use throughout your books and content. A lot of practice owners and their patients are obsessed with healthspan. But why do successful, high-income practitioners so consistently neglect wealthspan? And what do you think the cost is?
Paavan Kotini: I think the biggest reason is that they believe they're already earning really well, and the taxes they pay are just the cost of success. That's not necessarily the case. Most practice owners in longevity and functional medicine are focused on lifespan and healthspan. Lifespan is focused on the quantity of life. Healthspan is focused on the quality of life. Wealthspan is focused on the viability of life — the financial quality of life. If you haven't thought about wealthspan much, you really need what I call a wealth plan.
I'll give you an example from Chapter Two of Tax-Efficient White Coat. I talk about the journey of two doctors. One is a traditional filer — he's done well, clients love him, he's respected. He does all the right things, puts money into his 401(k) and HSA, and every year hands everything to his CPA. The CPA says here's what you have to pay in taxes, and he thinks that's just the cost of success. Then you have another person who is focused on optimizing — just like in longevity, you're trying to optimize efficiencies. For two earners making the same $350,000 per year, one who is a filer and one who is a planner can see a massive difference. At retirement in thirty years, one could have a net worth of $3 million while the other has $8 million. The difference is mindset — it's intentional, not an afterthought. The second component is having the right team to help you get there. Just like in longevity and functional medicine, you can't go to a traditional doctor and ask for the same things. You have to go to a specific type of practitioner. Wealthspan requires being proactive and forward-thinking. If you're living longer and improving your quality of life, you also want your financial wealth to match that lifespan and healthspan.
Andrew Hong: That comparison with functional health really resonates. The CPA is kind of the micro — prescribe a pill for that thing, here's what you owe, standard structure. Your firm looks at both the macro and the micro. The macro might be: you were thinking about selling in ten to twelve years, but we're seeing trends right now that suggest the window may not stay open. Is that the value you bring — big picture plus the details?
Paavan Kotini: Absolutely. Even on the tax side alone, there's a difference between tax filing and tax planning. There are over 80,000 pages of the IRS tax code. A traditional CPA, unfortunately, knows about 2% of it. They're focused on compliance — looking at things reactively, talking to you after the tax year is already over. Tax planning is completely different. We have specialists who understand the other 98%. And here's the reframe: don't look at it as 80,000 pages of rules. Think of it as 80,000 incentives that allow people to mitigate their taxes. Congress created the tax code to incentivize people to mitigate it. Most people just don't know how to utilize it, and they don't have access to the right strategies. The biggest mistake practice owners and medical professionals make is they don't know they're leaving money on the table.
Andrew Hong: Let's get tactical. I always want to leave our audience with a concrete takeaway. Most practice owners are the practice. Even in marketing, they want to grow, but the challenge is building a brand bigger than themselves. As I got through your book, there's a really practical, often-overlooked move: structuring a side entity separate from your main practice. It can unlock deductions you might not be able to access in your practice due to corporate structure or deduction eligibility. Can you walk us through that strategy?
Paavan Kotini: Great question. There are a number of low-hanging fruit strategies, and this is one of them. Let's say you're a functional medicine practitioner — you're doing IV, hormones, all the things in your day-to-day practice. But you're also being asked to speak, to consult for other practices, because you've built authority in your field. Creating a side entity focused on consulting means that the effort you put into speaking engagements, podcasts, and other avenues can be taken as additional deductions. Consulting work with other practices can also be run through this entity rather than your operating business, giving you more flexibility.
There are three major pillars of tax planning: credits, deductions, and depreciation. A side entity allows you to capitalize on certain deductions you may not have access to through your operating business. It's also an avenue to start pulling money outside of your operating business. Many practice owners we work with have their operating business, a separate entity for payroll, and a holding company. There are different ways to structure it. That's the simple version — but based on the complexity of where you're going, entity structuring can mitigate taxes and also mitigate risk.
Andrew Hong: Risk as in IRS audit protection and also protecting personal assets from business liability?
Paavan Kotini: Exactly. In terms of IRS, you're mitigating audit risk. But also, if something goes wrong in your practice, you don't want your personal assets exposed. The goal is to create a wall between your personal assets and your business.
Andrew Hong: Going back to the mindset shift from filer to planner — setting up that side entity is actually a tangible way to make that shift. Because now you have another entity, a separate QuickBooks, separate tax filings. That structure almost forces you to take the planning step. Things get a little more complicated, but that's why you hire professionals to manage it. And net-net, the result is better financially, from a wealthspan perspective, and even from a mental health perspective — maybe you can apply the SWAN method and sleep a little easier at night. Tell me about SWAN and how you came up with it.
Paavan Kotini: The initial concept of SWAN came about when I realized there are times when markets go up really well and times when they go down. In terms of investment and wealth philosophy, I didn't want to be a pure bull market investor but also didn't want to be a pure bear market investor. I thought about SWAN market investing — being able to sleep well at night because you're in the medium ground. Not too greedy, not too conservative. That concept originated in 2008 when we were able to help protect a lot of families from losing money when the market crashed, and in fact help them grow. The concept then expanded into how we look at wealth, taxes, and risk overall. The idea is: plan for the best, prepare for the worst. In many cases it's not a matter of if something will happen — it's a matter of when. We're already prepared. When markets crash or business slows, many of our clients aren't fazed because they already have a plan in place. You're really able to sleep well because you've thought through the majority of scenarios — not every exact scenario, but you know what the impact of those scenarios will be, and we can plan for that.
Andrew Hong: When is it a good time for a practice owner to talk to you? What's the revenue or income threshold where it starts to make sense?
Paavan Kotini: I love developing relationships early because there's so much we can do to help shape someone's entrepreneurial journey. But our ideal clients are individuals with a net income of $600K and above, or those paying $100K or more in taxes annually. A lot of times that corresponds to practice owners doing about $1 million or more in gross revenue. That's when it really, really makes sense — because you are almost certainly leaving money on the table, and there are clear ways we can put money back in your pocket.
Both practice owners in growth mode and those thinking about exit are great conversations. For anyone looking to exit, I absolutely recommend involving us before the sale. When it comes to capital gains, depending on when we get involved, we may be able to mitigate a large portion — 70% or more — and potentially even more if we're part of the conversation beforehand. After the capital gain event has already happened, we can still help, but the number of opportunities decreases significantly.
Andrew Hong: So don't wait until you're at the finish line to start thinking about planning. That's a key message. I've seen it from my M&A days — people so eager to get out that they took on really bad tax implications. And often the buyer will offer better terms if the owner sticks around for an earn-out period. It changes the whole dynamic.
Paavan Kotini: Absolutely. Let me tell you two stories. The first: a physician, about 56 years old, came to us in the last month of the year. He'd heard about us at a Christmas party. He had just sold his practice and wanted to mitigate some of the capital gains. We were able to mitigate 100% of the capital gain in his scenario. He had sold his clinic and wanted to immediately jump back in and buy another practice. We sat down with him and asked: what is your ultimate goal? What do you actually want? He had spent so many years dedicating his life to working, and we realized that with the strategies we were putting in place, he could actually retire. He didn't need to go back to work.
He was caught off guard — he thought he still needed to keep going. But we were able to show him that he didn't. He'd worked hard for his money; now his money could work hard for him. He was able to retire. His wife, also a physician, was stunned. She said: "You're telling me that all these years we've been told to save, save, save — and now you're telling me it's okay to spend? It's okay to retire now?" It's a different paradigm shift. We don't like to be yes-men. We like to bring thoughtful analysis so our clients can make educated decisions.
Andrew Hong: That really resonates. We start businesses as experts in something — otherwise people wouldn't pay us. But then you talk to a brilliant doctor and realize they know nothing about marketing, and they're almost embarrassed about it. Money is a weird thing. You come from an immigrant family, I come from an immigrant family — my dad was an investment banker, the opposite of an entrepreneur, very risk-averse. People's relationship with money is often wrapped in shame, even when they're doing well. There can be a psychological block around asking for help, especially when you've built something yourself. But if you're doing $1 million or more in gross revenue, there is likely money on the table, and people like Paavan exist specifically to help you capture it. Think of it like a functional medicine doctor — you wouldn't just take the pill your primary care doctor prescribed. You'd go to a specialist who looks at the whole picture. The same principle applies here.
Paavan Kotini: Absolutely. We can't all be the expert at everything. You have expertise as a practice owner. There are other people who are experts in other areas. You can certainly try to DIY many things, but in many cases you outgrow that approach. It took us years to become experts in this space, and we still feel like we don't know enough — we're learning every day. It's okay to go to an expert. We don't judge when someone has a problem — our goal is to help solve it. But you have to be honest with yourself. If your patients were embarrassed to tell you their symptoms, you couldn't diagnose them. The same applies here.
Andrew Hong: You can only evaluate so much through a tax return. Like a functional medicine doctor who looks at the whole body — the history, the lifestyle, the future considerations — you bring that same holistic perspective. And the arc of your story is remarkable: from fainting at the sight of blood in a lab to helping doctors who deal with blood every day get their financial lives in order.
So for any practice owner listening — what's the process if they want to connect with you?
Paavan Kotini: Similar to medicine, the first step is an introduction — about 30 minutes to see if we're a good fit, personality-wise and professionally. From there, if it feels right, we do a deeper diagnostic, just like in functional medicine with comprehensive testing. We look at everything. Then we come out with a proposal: fee structure, ROI, scope of work, and what the outcomes could look like. In most cases, when people get to that point, it becomes a no-brainer — because they can clearly see the value we're going to deliver far exceeds what they're paying. Our ultimate goal is to protect your most valuable asset, which is time. And to do it by making complex simple.
Andrew Hong: 100%. Paavan, that conversation went fast. Thank you so much for your time. If you're running a longevity or wellness practice and you've been putting off getting your financial health in order, I hope this episode was a wake-up call. We talked a lot about the wealthspan concept, and that alone is worth sitting with: you help your patients live longer, but your financial plan needs to keep up with the life you're trying to build.
If you want to connect with Paavan or explore what his family office approach might look like for your practice, go to his website at kotiniandkotini.com. His books, Effortless Wealth and Tax-Efficient White Coat, are both on Amazon. And remember: the Grow Smarter podcast is about helping practice owners grow smarter in every dimension — not just the modalities and treatments, but the marketing, financial planning, tax strategy, and operations that make a practice truly sustainable. Paavan, thank you for joining me. We'll have you back for more conversations.
Paavan Kotini: Thank you, Andrew. I really appreciate it. I can't believe an hour flew by.
Andrew Hong: Thanks everyone. We'll talk to you next time.
